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Old 02-15-2012, 12:08 PM
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If yall havent noticed I put both of my tanks up for sale since I had planned to get a new one for my new mag (would say Min-E-Mag but looking at a Classic RT right now).

I have an on-off asa I like alot & planned to buy a new Ninja tank/reg but I run across a 3k flatline every few days & the idea of getting one of them keeps popping into my head.

Ive been running Ninja for a couple years now & like how they run out & lack of upkeep needed. But I like how the Flatline is all oring seals rather than company specific parts. Plus it would let me go all AGD.

So what would yall do? Ninja or Flatline
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Old 02-15-2012, 12:35 PM
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I had a few flatline go through me before, the flatline is like a brick and doesn't fail. But in the end it is just that, there is the novelty of going all AGD, but it is as flexible as the newer tank system. I would go with or if you want some AGD flavor, get one laser engrave with AGD logo.
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Old 02-15-2012, 01:01 PM
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For me it came down to how easy it was for me to play at the field. I like to work through a couple of markers throughout the day, depending on who is playing and what the game is. That said, I run 2 Ninja tanks at ~850psi output, and I'm happy with how this works out. I can switch from one marker to the next, semi to open class pump, with no problems. It works well for me.

I did like my 3K Flatline, but I had more guns than air tanks at the time (still do ), and it became a huge PITA if I wanted to switch up on the fly. It helped a little after I bought a dovetail mount for it, but not as easy as a screw in and most automag grips don't have a dovetail mount on them so I needed a rail (+more $$). Also, I didn't have a slide check and had to manipulate the macro lines at the fittings to bleed the remaining air.

I think both Ninja and the Flatline have good recharge rates, and the Flatline can dial out your output pressure VERY well and accurately without shims. Makes sweetspotting your reg interesting for markers requiring and HPR or dialing up for RT pretty easy. I forget where Flatlines peak out at, but each Ninja reg was different as some top out at 850 and some at 1000 psi which was why they wanted to go for the SHP regulators.
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Old 02-15-2012, 07:13 PM
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I would not look at a Flatline. Running the Ninja's would be a better bet, 4500 psi so you have no worry about what the fill lines are at, they are more readily available if you need parts, and then switching markers through the day. If you are going for shear novelty of the set up then you the Flatline is great but other wise stick with a screw in.

My buddy uses s with great success (shimmed to higher pressure), while i run the new crossfire regs. Both work great and recharge is ungodly fast with both set ups. When RT'ing my markers are just as fast as with the lower pressure Crossfire's against the higher pressure 's.
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:36 AM
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I switched all my 4500 tanks to Ninja regs and am very happy with the change. I use them for 4 RT mags and three cockers. People run into problems when they throw 1200 psi through their lines. I just shortened my on/off pins for my mags so I can run my Ninjas at 915 and still RT. Besides which, parts are not going to be available for the Flatlines forever.
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Old 02-16-2012, 01:06 PM
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I've had Flatline tanks for years - but am in the switch over to Ninja. The main reason?

Reg Seats for the Flatlines.

If you were around long enough, you know the pain in the ass it was to get them back in the 2000s. They are a VERY specific type of o-ring and you can't get them everywhere. That's why I bought a ton of them when they were available.
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They are a VERY specific type of o-ring and you can't get them everywhere. That's why I bought a ton of them when they were available.
Whats so special about the oring seat in the 3ks? I know the 4500s have a seat like classic valves.
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Whats so special about the oring seat in the 3ks? I know the 4500s have a seat like classic valves.
No, they have some crappy proprietary ones. They are aweful. I got a brand new 4500 flatline from Tuna a few years ago.. the reg seat would let go every time after 2 or 3 fills. Im pretty sure AGD doesnt have anymore of them anyway.

Ninja or Crossfire are the way to go. Both are solid performers and user friendly.
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No, they have some crappy proprietary ones. They are aweful. I got a brand new 4500 flatline from Tuna a few years ago.. the reg seat would let go every time after 2 or 3 fills. Im pretty sure AGD doesnt have anymore of them anyway.

Ninja or Crossfire are the way to go. Both are solid performers and user friendly.
My reg piston bent trying to put in my last seat
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Old 02-16-2012, 07:29 PM
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These suckers in the 4500s are something stupid like 95 durometer hardness as well as having a 1 way fitting - once you use one of these things and remove it, it's done.

Don't get me wrong - my Flatlines have served me well - but screw-in tanks are really what I'm going towards now.
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